Now using this chart, Te Kapu is Paretaheke Te Aho and Ramarihi is Whāriki Te Aho and they are both sisters and daughters of Irohanga.and Kura Tiari and they both married the same chief Te Keha aka Te Aho
It was through finding Irohanga that the connections became clear as he was a big chief and from the Kawai Rangatira "Chiefly Line" He was killed during war when he avenged the death of his son Maungatautari. he was found in the Whakapapa here and it led to his daughters and his moko Wētere Te Aho. now Whariki has 3 kids in this whakapapa "Neha, Ruini and Hapimana, which differ from the Minutes so I reckon that everyone had many names back then but I had to focus on the names that I knew.
Now it's only a possible reason but I think the only reason Wētere is the only child mentioned here is because he is the eldest and the only one who sticks in the mind of these kaumatua but today we know that he isn't the only child.
So therefore the shape of the whakapapa at this point is
From the Top
Hekemaru___Hekeiterangi
Paretāhuri ___ Mahuta___Pāoa
Mahuta_____Kiringaua
Uerata
Uerata______Puakirangi
Huakatoa____Hourua ____Wharetiperi ______Tapāue
Hourua_____ Pukauae
Te Umukiwhakatane_Pokohuia_Te Ahōterangi_Te Moko_Taiko
Umukiwhakatane_Parengaope
Whakamarurangi
Whakamarurangi_ Hinematua
Poka___Rangimaunu__Irohanga__Te Riunui
Irohanga______Tiari
Here_Muriwhenua_Maungatautari__Paretaheke_Whariki
Paretāheke___Te Keha
Wētere,_ Parerāware_, Maunganui_Ngarongo,
Wētere_____ Riria
Ngārongo_Ngāparaihe_Rangiwawae_Pepe Rangiwawae.
Ngāparaihe_ Hori Tiriwa TeOti.
Maungatautari is not in this chart but he is the Tupuna of Dr Pei te Hurinui and if Dr Pei says he should be there then he is. Also with māori whakapapa, unlike Pakeha structures
Your parents are also the siblings of your real parents which is why the term matua or whaea applies to everyone in your family once you realize that this is the structure then it starts to make sense, and throughout this whakapapa you have some saying that this son is theirs aswell example Muriwhenua-Irohanga's son or Te Ahōterangi? Te Umukiwhakatane and Te Ahōterangi both married Parengaope and I imagine Muriwhenua was whangai by Parengaope because it's her Moko Muriwhenua had a son Pohepohe kIngi whom some of the Kingi whāhau come from and the name Irohanga runs through there family so It would make sense if he was whangai'd by his nana Parengaope.
Now even more interesting because there is a direct connection to Hekemaru (declining power) and Hekeiterangi (Arrived from heaven)
There is a connection to 7 canoes that came to Aotearoa not forgetting that these kingites are the kaumatua that put Potatau as king because he was blood related to 7 canoes. As we branch from the same whakapapa then we do as well.
We break away from the Potatau during Uerata and Puakirangi as Hourua was female and her brother Tapāue was Potatau's tūpuna.
Hourua's son Te Umukiwhakatane was the older brother of Te Aho o te rangi who married back into Tapāue's line and he shared the same wife Parengaope with Te Umukiwhakatane. I do think though that this Te Aho o te rangi is different from Wharepu. because it would mess up the Whakapapa because this is before Pōtatau was born.
I truely believe that all the accounts of Te Aho o te rangi wharepu are incorrect as he is said to be Ngati Mahuta and the son of Potatau but he can't be Grandfather of potatau's mother and potatau son as well, I blame the many people searching for him and making up the stories on their way. Truth be known Wharepu chose to be buried in Kaiaua because his mother was from there, Our tūpuna Te aho/Te keha is buried in the Urupa at Manuaitu. and again that differs from stories out there. Incorrect details like this can bring about issues such as pōrangi too. I feel it is important to note that we are related to Te Kāhui Ariki but we are not Kāhui ariki, our ties start from before the Kingitanga, so we are from "Te Kāwai Rangatira" The line of Chiefs.
The above Whakapapa was held by Wiremu Nero Te Awataia he was the holder of Whakapapa for Tainui and he was the chief of Raglan area. There is a museum there which speaks of his mana and his history.
This connection of 7 the canoes can be found here in this link
but from this whakapapa Māhuta is missing and he is the main part of this whakapapa because he is the Father of Ngāti Māhuta.
http://www.kiingitanga.com/Kiingitanga_Whakapapa.pdf
As a matter on interest how does our Whakapapa stacks up in a generational sense.
Hekemaru__________________ Heke ite rangi
Mahuta ______________Kiringaua
Uerata _____________ Puakirangi
Hourua Tapaue
Te Umukiwhakatane Te Putu
Whakamarurangi Tawhiakiterangi
Irohanga Tuata
Paretaheke Te Rauangaanga
Wetere Potatau
Ngaparaihe Tawhiao
Te Morehu Mahuta
Jack Te Rata
David Koroki
Te Ataiirangikaahu
etc etc
We share a few common tupuna with the royal family
Te Putu is our last tūpuna, He was a great Tohunga and was Tapu. It is said that upon his death he was buried on Taupiri Maunga and he is the reason it is Tapu and it is now the final resting place of his descendants. He is the great grand father of Potatau
he is also the father of Hine Matua Irohanga's mother.
Kia Ora, Ive been searching high and low for the name of Rongomate (Brother of Te Rauangaanga) wife and I see in the Potatu Te Wherowhero whakapapa that there is a name but I cant see it properly....I think it says Whauroa of Ngati Huakatoa but not sure. I am a descendant of Rongomate through his son Paratene Te Maioha. Can anyone clarify this for me please. Email is maowaiianstylez@gmail.com..
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James Rahui Bailey
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DeleteCan you please send me the comment you removed . My dad died fee months ago wallace george is his name. So please can you consider my grievance
DeleteKia ora James
DeleteAe Rongomate ia Whauroa, Paratene ia Ramari. They are my tuupuna also :)
Kia ora, we have been searching for verification of te aho o te rangi wharepu and his principal waimana puku uri we do have that
ReplyDeletewakaheke it may fill in a few gaps and may verify our standing we happy to co-operate on this matter and we appreciate any assistance from any other source. phone 0224328247 or email diplomat122698@gmail.com Nelson RR-SIRNZ
Kia ora, we have been searching for verification of te aho o te rangi wharepu and his principal waimana puku uri we do have that
ReplyDeletewakaheke it may fill in a few gaps and may verify our standing we happy to co-operate on this matter and we appreciate any assistance from any other source. phone 0224328247 or email diplomat122698@gmail.com Nelson RR-SIRNZ
Tena koe me ou mahi whakahirahira -
ReplyDeleteI had completed my whakapapa compilation as a descendant of Koro Potatau's sister. However, am now in a state of controversy regarding one aspect - in the whakapapa that was handed down to me by my kaumatua, Parengaope was Te Rauangaanga's wife - not Te Aho o te Rangi..... and therefore Koro Potatau's and my great, great, great, great, great grandmother's mother.....so am mulling over this..... Nga mihi nunui. Mauri Ora ki a tatou.
Kia ora. What is the name of your tupuna whaea (Koro Potataus' sister). That might help. Ngamihi
DeleteNga mihi e taku whanaunga Te Aroha Smith,
DeleteThere were two Parengaope. The first one was the daughter of Te Kanawa. Te Kanawa was disappointed he never had sons, so he gave his two daughters these "not very nice". Parengaope, the girl for the war party, and her sister, Tiramanuhiri, entertaining the visitors. Out there right ! Anyway, Parengaope I was first married to Umukiwhakatane, then when he died, according to custom she married his younger brother, Te Ahooterangi, my tupuna Muriwhenua is one of her children. Its why I know this line well. Anyway, the two husbands of Parengaope I, had a sister named Rangimahora. Rangimahora married Te Wawahanga. Te Wawahanga had a sister named Paretewa, who was the mother of Parengaope II, who married Te Rauangaanga, and had POTATAU. Ka pai ? If you want me to make it into a table, inbox me on the Ngati Maru Runanga page, or on my own facebook page.
Hello. I’m researching some oral history that claims Te Aho o te Rangi Wharepu also went by the name Matenga Paerata of Te Rarawa.
ReplyDeleteThe story goes that Te Aho travelled up and down the North Island and had many wives. In Muriwhenua it’s said he was known as Matenga Paerata, grandfather of theologian Maori Marsden. Two portraits of Te Aho have been shared within the Marsden family for a number of generations. (1) “All ‘e Same t’e Pakeha” where he is depicted wearing a bola hat. (2) “Calm Close of Valour’s Various Day” where Te Aho is shown sitting holding a tokotoko and bearing the name ‘Erana’ on his right arm.
The two pieces of evidence that are referenced in support of the story are that the pounamu earing in the paintings is reportedly the exact same taonga that the Matenga family still have in their possession, and that ‘Erana’ may be a longer version of the name Ere referencing Matenga’s wife Ere Awarau. My digging so far and some research by others does not support the story. Primarly, Matenga’s whakapapa is well documented and doesn’t match the names of ancestors or descendants of Te Aho.
My conclusion so far is that either the resemblance between Te Aho and Matenga caused some to speculate that they were the same man, or, that there’s some familial relationship between Te Aho and Matenga (perhaps whangai which was very common within Matenga’s family) and the truth has suffered from Chinese whispers over the generations.
If anyone can assist in my research please contact Adrian dot Ashdown at gmail dot com.
Kia ora. If I'm not mistaken the man with the name Erana on his arm was either Rewiri Tarapata, David Talbot or Tupanapana, both of who came from the north, Ngapuhi.
DeleteThanks for your comments Harry. All records of that painting, Calm Close of Valour's Various Day, show that it is supposed to be Te Aho O Te Rangi Wharepu. Harata Rewiri Tarapata and Tupanapana were wives of Paora Tuhaere who was painted by Lindauer, although Harata was a common subject of Goldie's.
DeleteI've always seen this painting and felt a bit of kinship with it being that my name is Erana :)
DeleteThat painting is Te Ahooterangi Wharepu. According to Awarutu Samuels, who is possibly citing Taruke Thompson, 1st wife was Erana, 2nd wife was Kaumanu.
DeleteTe Ahooterangi Wharepu as depicted in the Goldie Paintings is my tuupuna noo Ngaati Mahuta. I have heard of the koorero about Matenga Paerata being the same person. As was common practice our tuupuna used various names in different roohe or after significant events, like wars and baptism to Christian faiths. According to my research though, Koro Te Aho was born during Hekes War, which was in 1845-1846, therefore he was not yet born at the time of the signing of He Wakaputanga in 1835. Te Aho himself makes mention of this in 1902 as a witness in a courtcase where as rangatira he performed a traditional maoori marriage ceremony.
DeleteKia ora do you have minutes of that sittings or references tia
DeleteI need to go to archives or AuT to search for the court minutes. Its mentioned in papers past, under the heading a Maori Romance.
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ReplyDeleteHello, I am wondering if you can tell me what the name of Te Aho O Te Rangi Wharepu's mother's name was. Also who would we contact to confirm where Te Aho is buried in Kaiaua. Thank you for your interesting blog.
ReplyDeleteAlso we have a BDM record that shows that Te Aho (Wharepu) was married to Ramarihi and they had a daughter named Te Kono Hutukawa Pahiwi Te Aho/Astle. Does this information line up with what you know so far? Thank you Pauline
ReplyDeleteKia ora Pauline, Is your BDM record, a death entry ? I'm asking because often the name of the tribe is recorded. I was going to order it, but here you are ! :o) Maybe you could tell me/us. I know of two versions for Te Ahooterangi Wharepu's Mother. One version, advanced by Taruke Thompson - Wai Claimant for Ngati Whakamarurangi is that his parents were Te Keha and Whariki. In this version, they say he is also known as Hapimana, and that this whakapapa in on Fenton's POTATAU CHART, which I have seen on this blog. The other version, which is held by Ngati Mahuta, is that his parents were Pōtātau Te Wherowhero and Rongopatutaonga. This is the popular version, probably supported by the appellation on the painting, ie: Ngati Mahuta Chief. However, having said that, Taruke is quite fastidious, so she will have good reason for her position.
DeleteI have heard of a connection between this line (Te Aho Wharepu) and the Astles. Your information is interesting. Thank you
ReplyDeleteLoving your mahi, would you have more whakapapa or information for Takuira Tauteka?
ReplyDeleteI would also love information for Takuira Tauteka as well
DeleteKia ora Harry, I came here because I knew you had the Potatau Chart here, saved me wading through the Fenton Waikato papers, so Thanks. I answered a few patai while I was here too, so I might as well answer the one that you posed up there re: MURIWHENUA. I know 4 Muriwhenua, 5 if I count my grandson. The first Muriwhenua was the son of Te Ahooterangi 1 and his 2nd wife Parengaope 1. This Te Ahooterangi was the son of Hourua and Pukauae, and is the namesake of Te Ahooterangi Wharepu. Right that's Muriwhenua Kaitangata - Muriwhenua 1. Son of Irohanga is Muriwhenua 2. He is also known as Paora Muriwhenua and was painted by George Angas. He also signed the Treaty of Waitangi. He is NOT the Kaitangata, though certain people argue he is. He is a namesake born 3 - 4 generations later, simple. Muriwhenua 3 is as you said, the Kingi Line. Uehoka Hone Kingi Muriwhenua is his full name. Muriwhenua 4, is also known as Paekau, if you know that family, there are branches in Whatawhata and in Raglan. Right there they are.
ReplyDeleteHe mihi tenei no tetahi uri o te Kaitangata.
Just one very small illumination, Huakatoa was from Uerata and Tamirangi, not Puakirangi. Huakatoa had at least five wives that I've done research for. Ngaa mihi ki a koutou moo too koorero whakamarama.
ReplyDeleteMore info on te aho o te rangi wharepu. The one with famous painting . My dad was a descendant of his and i need more info on him
ReplyDeleteNeed the comment made by wallace george please
ReplyDeleteTena koe. My tupuna was Wiremu Toetoe Tumohe It was said that he was a chief of Ngati Apakura and Ngati Hinetu. Please can you tell me if the Tumohe on the whakapapa for Potatau is my tupuna. He and TeHemara Rereahu travelled to Vienna. I am very very new at this so please forgive me if I’m up the wrong tree as to speak��
ReplyDeleteWiremu Toetoe Tumohe is my Tupuna on my Toetoe line also. I can confirm yes they are the same person. Some of our Hemara whanau are buried in foxton along with our Kauri, Paratene, and Kimura whanau.
DeleteKia Ora Te Whanau
ReplyDeleteKia ora, ko Takiwa ahau do you know anything about my koro Te Hika Poutama?
ReplyDeleteWicked Mahi! I think his grand koro was maungatautari (te hurinui)
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ReplyDeleteKia Ora e te Whānau!!!
ReplyDeleteHe uri tenei a Maniapoto, Kahungunu, Porourangi i te taha o tooku Papa. I te taha o tooku mama he uri tenei a Ireland me Germany ahau, ko Raymond Otene McKay.
I am one of Pootatau Te Wherowhero tuatahi’s great, great, great grandson’s. His first born Irihaapeti Te Paea Pootatau married my great, great grandfather John Horton McKay.
There was a portrait of her recently unveiled at a church in Te Awamutu by Mike Marshall (whanaunga) and Professor Tom Roa. Also present were the Kiingitanga.
Here is the article.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/te-awamutu-courier/news/the-kings-daughters-place-mana-on-historic-church/H6TCY6HWRBJGBAWRJXMLPIBLRE/
Kia Ora has anyone found out more on Te Aho O Te Rangi? as of 2022?
ReplyDeleteKia Ora you missing my nans whanau reading your kaupapa you have gaps missing
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ReplyDeleteMight as well put the rest of my whakapapa here even though it’s not sure of its relevance but my grandfather (Mr Barnes of Matata) one of two brothers is buried in the war cemetery in Matata. I also believe it was either my great grandfather or his father that started this conflict that had his village wiped out at Te Pehu pa, which if I was one of their immediate children of course I would want my children or grandchildren hidden into families but in plain sight at least I can see them growing up. Nanny kirikopi was hidden with the Kingi family which is why we have her birth name plus whom I know my nanny as Kirikopi Te Mama but even that wasn’t her last name. Nanny Kararaina was a nanny but sisters to both my grandmothers my dads birth mother Nanny Piki and his adopted mum and Aunty.
ReplyDeleteI think because of this grievance to the Matata iwi I know I’m just a descendant of both iwi someone needs to apologise because of what suffering my ancestor caused. My name is Matiu Wihapi and this my sincere apology to the iwi of Matata and grievance caused by my ancestors Rakawhati and Whanganui. It’s not done likely but regardless of my lineage and that’s through several chiefs is probably the same amount as Pōtatau. It’s not because of that line but I believe my Tohunga line of which my entire family share that deep rooted spiritual line of reconciliation and healing. My nanny kirikopi is buried in the Wihapi family urupa and one day I wish to be buried next to my nanny kirikopi and also my great aunty to reunite her with one of her sisters family.